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Saturday, December 13, 2014

the Christian life = total destitution

The people of God come to a fullness when they recognize and live in the place of total destitution. John 15:5 " I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing."

A question  How does the idea of "total destitution" connect in with "that bears much fruit"? Are they not the opposing sides?

My reply Excellent question to spur further discussion. The specific kind of "total destitution" that I am talking about is that of knowing that in me, that is in my flesh, dwells no good thing. The fulness of God can only flow out of one who is empty, who recognizes, that they are "undone" "a man of unclean lips among a people of unclean lips" "Righteousness belongs to You, O Lord, but to us open shame " The recognition that all of our "life" is flowing out of the vine, and we are just the branch, destitute of life, if not for your connection, our 100% dependence on the vine. In the last two Bible Studies that Tom Quinlan hosts, "Paul's Gospel in the Old Testament" Session 11 and 12, the truth that the fullness of the gentiles is actually the revealing of a people who are at the end of their strength, corporately having no strength of their own, corporately wholly dependent, absolutely surrendered to God. (I have watched and read about so many charismatically gifted people who would bear fruit for a season and then grab a tiny sliver of the glory, and then crash and burn, a total cleansing of self-righteousness, a total rejection of any "claim" upon grace is what we need and what the Lord is searching for.)


and an “add on”  And from the place of "total destitution" the will of God reigns and the love of God flows and the compassion of God heals, unhindered by the "flesh", bearing much fruit all for the glory of His Name

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