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Saturday, August 30, 2008

Please understand

Please understand my passion for the proper understanding of the end times and the role of the church in the end times. I see it as being of utmost importance. I see it as actors who are training to play the role of a soldier in a movie, they know no one is going to get hurt and the war isn't real. Now compared to them how do you think a real Navy Seal, or Marine, or Green Beret, trains. No comparison. The church will be a much different place if we all have the vision of having to walk thru the horrific challenges of a world where all believer's in God are hounded persecuted and killed. So much of what we do centers around entertainment and "play", this needs to change. Part of that change may come when the truth of the church walking thru the tribulation time with faith and trust toward God, begins to be accepted and taught.
Isaiah 50:10 Who is among you that fears the LORD, That obeys the voice of His servant, That walks in darkness and has no light? Let him trust in the name of the LORD and rely on his God. People get ready!!

the whole truth

ok, i'm a little angry because i think that many "teachers" are hiding or holding back the truth in order to make their own view seem right

1 thes 4 is used by many to prove the rapture of the church before the tribulation and that proof hinges on the word translated "meet" in the new testament.

that word meet occurs only 4 times from what i can gather from strongs


Mat 25:1
Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps and went forth to meet 529 the bridegroom .
Mat 25:6
And at midnight there was a cry made , Behold , the bridegroom cometh ; go ye out to meet 529 him .
Act 28:15
And from thence , when the brethren heard of us , they came to meet 529 us as far as Appii forum , and The three taverns : whom when Paul saw , he thanked God , and took courage .
1Th 4:17
Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds , to meet 529 the Lord in the air : and so shall we ever be with the Lord .

so in each occurence it is people coming out from a place, a wedding feast, rome, the earth, meeting the person and then returning with that person to where they were.... please selah
stop consider,
so keeping the word "meet" with its true and only meaning all the other times it is used
We meet Christ in the air and then return to earth to watch him win the battle of armaggedon and start the millenial reign. This would be in keeping with the one and only second coming of Christ. This would mean there is no "secret" "approaching" 1/2 way down for a rapture before the start of the tribulation. All the twists and turns necessary to make for a rapture before the tribulation period is bad interpretation of the Bible at best...and at worst it is an evil money-making ear tickling man pleasing "peace, peace" where there is no peace
Rise up Church, prepare for your very important role as a light unto the world for the duration of the tribulation.

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

something to chew on

Art Katz one sentence referring to those who have died to self, died to attempts to use their natural abilities to advance the kingdom of God, died to the approval of man.

"The word success is not in their vocabulary, only the word glory!"

no desire to prove anything or see any special result, just, "God receive all the glory"
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Wednesday, August 6, 2008

need to vent

so what's the b-i-g d-e-a-l ? what does it matter what a person believes about the end times?
you believe in pre-trib rapture, i believe the church will go thru the tribulation period, oh well no big deal.........yuk
i am about to vent and will make no effort to correct or coral my passion on this subject, beware..

the pre-trib rapture view, speaks of a church too fragile, too wimpy, to experience the tribulation period... a church so lacking in love that it waves bye-bye to the millions who will have to walk thru the tribulation period, because they are "God's favorites" and shouldn't have to endure such a bad bad time ... a church not filled with power from on High that could shine as a light during such a bad bad time... that could, even in dying as martyrs be a city on a hill, that others would see and understand, that the love that is willing to lay down its life for others is a picture of the God who wants to heal, save, and love them
the pre-trib rapture view caters to a selfish, non-loving heart and when it proves to be a lie, yes i said A LIE, many who had their Heart set on "getting out before it gets bad bad" will FALL AWAY, their love will grown cold, their agape love will grow cold, it is almost too much to imagine... who is sufficient for these things, who can cry out against the selfish heart that is being nurtured and cuddled and promoted in these days IN THE CHURCH
God help us
can't we see that the whole tenor of the New Testament, the Theme, the major issue is Love, love that is willing for its very life to be 'given up' in order to see others come to know the God who is love, so shouldn't the church be willing, expecting, preparing, to be the same type of suffering servant that the Lord of the church demonstrated by His Life on this earth...
A pure, spotless bride. Show me any other thing that will change the current church into a pure spotless bride??? beeeepppp time's up, the only answer is tribulation,
the martyrs cry out under the altar in revelation and the answer given them is their number is not yet full... give that some thought and so will i

meanwhile thanks for letting me "go off" i feel better